Susan Grier (right, with her partner, Trish, left) is a writer specializing in creative nonfiction, and has been published in Dear John, I Love Jane, Trans Forming Families: Real Stories About Transgendered Loved Ones, Thanksgiving to Christmas: A Patchwork of Stories, Women Writers Read, and more. She lives not far from me (Southern Maryland), and has done some great work to advocate for lbgt, etc. rights in the state. Combined with the fact that she's just an awesome person...this makes her fantastic candidate for the first Gendercast blog interview!
Enjoy, and many thanks to Susan for sharing her time and reflections with us. -Gilligan
Gilligan: Can you
introduce yourself and tell us your gender identity and anything else you’d
like us to know?
Susan: My name is Susan Grier and I identify as female and lesbian,
although the lesbian part was late coming. At the age of 51 and after two
marriages to men, I fell in love with a woman and we've been together for
almost seven years. My interest in gender identity stems from having raised an
FTM transgender child, and I think being a lesbian heightens that interest.
Gilligan: What sort
of projects/writing do you do related to gender identity and exploration?
Susan: I write from the point of view of being the mother of a
trans person. I've written and published essays that touch on the subject, but
the story is too large to be contained in a single essay. I'm working on a
memoir originally intended to be my story as the mother of a trans child: the
bewilderment of having a daughter who didn't act like a daughter; the anguish
of watching her suffer and not understanding why as she entered puberty; the
shock of finally learning, when she was 15, that she had discovered the word
for how she felt, and the word was "transgender"; the process of
dealing with the loss of my daughter while simultaneously striving to be a good
mother and do everything I could to help my child become the person s/he was
meant to be; watching her become him - the voice deepening, body hair
increasing, seeing him through chest surgery, and learning to use the
appropriate pronouns; and finally, witnessing his courage and strength, which
continues today, as he finds the full expression of his whole self as a male
and as a human being.
As I've written bits and pieces of this story, though, I've
realized that I cannot tell it without also telling the story of my own
transformation, from southern debutante living out the traditional roles of
wife and mother to a woman prompted, by the experience of raising a transgender
child, to examine the origins and unspoken rules of both female and male roles
and to ultimately discover my own inability to follow the prescribed path I had
followed as a heterosexual female. The story of the two transformations - mine
and my child's - are parallel and intertwined.
Gilligan: How did
you come to do this work?
Susan: What got me started was pursuing an MFA in creative writing,
which I completed in 2006. Through the work, I began to write more
authentically about my experiences as a female. Ultimately, I wrote myself out
of my second marriage and into something else entirely, which I can only
describe as a kind of opening beyond those narrow boundaries I'd been raised
with to other ways of being, including loving a woman. I began to find my voice
as a memoirist. I had been wanting to write a book about raising a transgender
child. In fact, the mother of another trans child and I were going to write a
book together, but it didn't pan out. In graduate school, I developed the
vision and confidence I needed to write the book myself, in a way that most
made sense to me.
Gilligan: How does
that influence/been influenced by your writing?
Susan: The MFA was invaluable to me. I realize not everyone needs
one, and now they seem to be almost cliché, but
I learned so much about good writing, gained the confidence to call myself a
writer, and the confirmation that I have a really valuable story to tell.
Gilligan: How has
writing about your experiences impacted how you process and perceive gender
identity and transitions, and connect with trans* folk and their friends and
family?
Susan: For me, writing equals examination. Writing about my
experiences has forced me to examine so much about gender and gender identity -
mine and those of others. I once perceived gender identity as black and white -
either you are a male or a female. Now I know there is a gender spectrum, along
which are many variations of gender expression. My son found his place as a
heterosexual trans man. But others are content in a less-defined place on the
spectrum. For example, my partner is a female who identifies with many male
qualities but stopped short of being trans. There are people who don't identify
as either gender. I'm perfectly okay
with all of this in a way I never would have been if I wasn't a writer.
In addition, writing about my experience as the mother of a
trans child allows me to feel that I have something to contribute to the larger
community of trans folk and their friends and families. After having an essay
published in the anthology Trans Forming
Families: Real Stories About Transgendered Love Ones, my son and I were
invited to sit on a panel on dealing with one's family at an FTM conference.
Afterwards, all these sweet young FTMS came up to me, so hungry for advice and
maybe also some mother-love. Having that opportunity to interact with them
meant so much to me. At that same conference, I was invited to participate in
an evening reading so I got to read my essay in an environment of mutual appreciation,
which felt powerful for all concerned.
Gilligan: What are
some of the most important things learned from your experiences?
Susan: I used to think that there was a "normal" way
people and families should be; Some call it the "hetero-normal" way
of being, which has been defined by heterosexuality. Without thinking of it
that way - I had nowhere near the awareness I have now - I see now that I once
subconsciously prided myself in being "normal" and could not even
conceive of being any other way. I hate to admit it, but I used to look
somewhat askance at people who deviated from this normalcy. I thought I was
somehow better or superior to them. Now that both my child and I live outside
the margins of hetero-normal acceptability, I have much greater compassion for
others, regardless of who they are, how they live, or the circumstances they
find themselves in. I've learned that the most important thing in this life is
connecting with others; we are all floating on that same great sea of
humanity.
Gilligan: Is there
anything you especially want readers to take away from your writings?
Susan: For general audiences, I hope that as an honest,
non-sensationalized account of a mother and child who could be anyone's
next-door neighbors, my story helps humanize trans people and create compassion
and understanding for their experiences. I believe the story contains some
universal truths that apply to any parent or family member struggling to deal
with the disappointment of having a child who is not what they expected or
hoped s/he would be. My story brings to life the challenges of learning to see
and accept those children for who they are, the difficult process of offering them
unconditional love and support in becoming the person they were meant to be, and
the ultimate reward of being enriched beyond measure by that experience.
For parents of trans kids, I hope the story helps them feel
less alone or isolated. I hope those who feel unable to tolerate their child's
differences can find comfort and the strength to love and support their child
instead of rejecting their child. I hope that they will see that staying
connected to their child is more important than anything else.
Gilligan: Are there
any pieces on gender identity and gender-related experiences that you’d like to
work on in the future?
Susan: I think the book is going to keep me busy for the
foreseeable future.
Do you have any experience taking testosterone and/or supplements? Do
you have an experience you feel might differ from the “typical vlog
transition”? Or do you just want to have a part in Gendercast’s next episode?
